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Let's take a closer look at why there is no draft in the stove or chimney of a private house or bathhouse, and what to do. Let's find out how to determine the presence of this problem and what to do to fix it.
Draft is the force of movement of exhaust gases along the outlet channel, appearing due to the difference in air temperatures. If it is normal, combustion products freely go outside; if there is not enough of it (or it is completely absent), gases accumulate in the pipe and either clog the hose, gradually reducing its throughput, or flow back into the room. This is dangerous because the smoke contains harmful substances that can cause poisoning.
The following signs will alert you to problems:
- the appearance of smoke when opening the cleaning door;
- smoke from pipes;
- pops of smoke masses on the stove door.
How to check the draft in the furnace and understand whether it is there or not
The sooner you notice the problem, the easier it will be to get rid of it. Therefore, inspect your heating system regularly. Among the obvious manifestations:
- puffs of smoke appearing immediately as soon as you open the firebox door;
- white, gray or even black smoke masses ooze from cracks or pipe joints.
When at least one of these phenomena is observed, it is time to sound the alarm. But even if they are not there, this does not mean that combustion products normally come out and do not stagnate in the outlet channel.
If there are no external signs, but there are suspicions, the lack of traction can be checked in the following simple ways:
- Using a candle, light it, carefully insert it into the firebox and look at the flame. If the light “goes” away from you, even further inward, then the situation is normal; if the tongue remains in place and does not even tremble, the air masses are not circulating properly.
- Using a ribbon or piece of paper, take it by the edge and bring it to the pipe. If the free end pulls into the sleeve, then everything is fine, if it does not move, the hood does not work.
- Using a mirror, you need to carefully bring it closer to the fuel-burning chamber and take a closer look. If moisture appears on its surface, there is a problem with the removal of combustion products.
- Look at the color of the flame: when it is yellowish-golden, everything is good, if it is bright orange or, even more so, red, there is poor air circulation.
After you have checked the lack of traction, you need to find out the reasons for its occurrence.
What to do if the boiler goes out Remedies
It is recommended to trust the installation of professional equipment to professional craftsmen. The Neva geyser goes out during operation if there is a small leak or the chimney is clogged. After eliminating the problems, durable equipment will delight its owners for a long time with proper operation. When the column goes out when you turn on the shower, the cause may be either low water pressure or clogged filters. You need to call the utility service and find out why there is low water pressure in the water supply. Filters must be cleaned and replaced if necessary.
Installing a special damper will help prevent the gas boiler from extinguishing in windy weather. Expensive models equipped with a special hood that can increase air flow do not have problems with a lack of oxygen necessary for combustion.
A water filter will allow you to clean dirty water entering the column, and a stabilizer will effectively solve the problem with voltage drops.
If an AEG geyser, equipped with an automatic regulator for water flow, goes out and does not turn on, then it is possible that the solenoid valve for turning on the gas is faulty. After replacement, the equipment will work properly again.
Why there is no draft in the chimney: reasons for its absence
There are two fundamentally different situations:
- there was no normal traction initially;
- over time, the traction force weakened, and then completely disappeared (or is insufficient).
The reasons for their occurrence are associated with a number of factors, which we analyzed and combined into key groups - according to the nature, degree, and consequences of their impact. Next, we will look at the most important points and find out how to prevent each of them or eliminate their consequences.
Reason #1 – chimney design
- There were errors in the configuration.
- The pipe diameter is smaller than that required for the stove of the selected power and recommended by the heating unit manufacturer.
- When laying the channel, turns of 90° were made, while the maximum possible value (according to SNiP) is only 45°. Ideally, the chimney should be vertical throughout. But sometimes this can be difficult or impossible to achieve. In this case, tees and transitions (elbows) are used. If your channel has at least one transition at 90°, then you need to extend the pipe by 1 m, if there are two transitions (two angles), then by 2 m. If you used a transition at 45°, then two such angles - this is plus 1 m in height.
- Horizontal sections along the sleeve are either too common or too long - their total length should not exceed a distance of 1 m.
- A non-cylindrical or round pipe shape was chosen - weak draft in a chimney with a square cross-section occurs more often due to turbulence that forms in the corners and interferes with the exit of combustion products. As a rule, square sections have brick structures. You can select the appropriate option in the catalog.
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If your chimney is brick and not lined, be sure to line it with stainless steel pipes. These pipes are easy to install, have sealed joints and a smooth inner surface, on which the likelihood of soot accumulation is minimal.
- The vent is too short - there is no flow of fresh air.
- During lining, pipes of different diameters were taken, as a result, large quantities of soot accumulate at their joints, making it difficult to remove gas masses.
- The joints between the pipes are not airtight and there are gaps.
- There is no cap (umbrella, head) that protects against the ingress of foreign objects and precipitation.
Incorrect assembly
It is necessary that the pipe protrudes above the level of the flat roof by at least half a meter. The location of it is also important. If the distance to the ridge is less than 1.5 m, the channel needs to be increased by another 0.5 m. The total length of the hose, starting from the boiler, must be more than 5 m, but at the same time be within the building codes and comply with the recommendations drawn up by the heating equipment manufacturer.
The chimney is not properly insulated
If this is not done, the exhaust gases will cool before they escape and settle on the walls of the pipe in the form of condensate.
Therefore, in areas of low temperatures (attic, cold shop, street) it is necessary to install insulated sandwich chimneys made of stainless steel. Then the temperature of the exhaust gases will be higher than the dew point, and the likelihood of condensation will be less.
What else can cause an ignition failure?
Less common, but the following problems may occur that lead to blocking of the heating unit.
Short circuit
Another cause of failure may be a short circuit. This often happens when the boiler is chosen incorrectly; it does not fit the dimensions of the house (too small and its power is not enough to heat the room, or, on the contrary, too large).
Component mismatch
If the boiler has already been repaired and elements that are not suitable for the model are installed in it, for example, an air pressure switch, the boiler may see a signal unusual for its operation and therefore is blocked.
Inconsistency with the dimensions of the heating system
Boilers should be selected according to the size of your home's heating system and your likely demand for hot water. If the boiler is too powerful, it will produce more steam than it can condense, causing a short cycle. In the past, engineers typically installed boilers that were larger than required to compensate for high losses. Boilers today are much more efficient, so there is no need to overload the boiler.
Pressure too high
Too much boiler pressure will also cause the boiler's automatic safety precautions to kick in and shut down the boiler. As a rule, the pressure in the boiler should be between 1 and 2 bar. If reducing the pressure doesn't make any difference, try bleeding the radiators with excess air and water before calling a gas safety engineer.
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Ventilation holes are faulty
All components in a gas boiler are important, and a malfunction of one will certainly lead to a blockage of the entire unit. In particular, ventilation is of particular importance for the correct operation of the boiler. If the vents are not working properly, air will be trapped in the system, increasing the pressure until the burner switches off at pressuretrol. They may need to be cleaned or replaced.
Thermostat is faulty or incorrectly calibrated
The thermostat may be faulty or in a cold draft, affecting its ability to accurately measure the monitor's temperature. Therefore, it is unacceptable for the unit to remain in a cold room for a long time. If the thermostat has a mercury switch and is not leveled, this can also cause the problem.
Boiler is the right size, but overheated
When a boiler overheats, it will produce a lot of steam in a short period of time, which will increase the pressure in the unit and cause it to shut down for safety reasons.
Reason #2 – poor ventilation
Incorrect air exchange, in one of the rooms or in the entire building, is also a factor explaining why there is no draft in the stove of a house or bathhouse. Combustion products are not removed properly and/or in full if:
- In the boiler room/room, windows are constantly or often open, which are also installed at a level significantly higher than the firebox door.
- There are strong drafts that disrupt the usual movement of gas masses through the rooms.
- There is no flow of fresh air, and the sleeve seems to “suck” it from the street so that a vacuum is not created.
The difficulty and even danger here is that these shortcomings may not manifest themselves for a long time, and then lead to the release of exhaust gas, and this is fraught with carbon monoxide poisoning.
The role of the damper in the operation of the heating system
The damper, or chimney damper, protects the house from fire and prevents the possibility of reverse draft.
It is mounted:
- in the door of the stove (fireplace) or located in the stove (fireplace) itself;
- directly into the chimney pipe.
The chimney damper acts as a chimney draft regulator. By closing the damper, we reduce the cross-sectional area of the chimney, and accordingly, the draft decreases. We open the damper, the cross-section increases, and so does the chimney draft.
After the fuel has burned out in the heating device, you can close the damper, thereby reducing heat losses. The stove or fireplace will not cool down as quickly, which will save on fuel.
Reason #3 – external factors
First of all, these are atmospheric phenomena. Precipitation in the form of prolonged rains and snowfalls, fogs with increased humidity levels, squally or simply sharp winds - all this creates a pressure difference. As a result, when leaving outside, combustion products encounter strong air resistance, return back and enter the room. Their accumulation results in the deposition of soot and condensate on the walls of the hose, which means a decrease in its cross-section (throughput), up to complete clogging.
If you have poor draft in the chimney, the reasons may be the following, for example:
- a tall tree grows next to a house or bathhouse, the branches of which cover the chimney;
- in the immediate vicinity of your building some new structure has appeared; it is higher than yours and becomes a “wind support”, that is, it reflects the combustion products coming from you;
- When there is high humidity or frost, the air becomes heavier, falls down and presses inside the pipe.
It is clear that not every such factor can be eliminated with equal ease. If you can trim the same branches without difficulty, then how can you negotiate with the person living nearby? You will have to use special elements like deflectors or rotary turbines, which we will discuss in detail below.
What to do if the gas boiler goes out
When the flame goes out, do not panic. First of all, the valve at the inlet shuts off the gas supply from the main line. The room is ventilated, since the smell of fumes or pure gas is not always noticeable.
The next step is to try to establish the cause. The problem of traction is solved independently. Inspect the chimney. If necessary, clean it of soot and ice.
To clean the burning or replace the thermocouple assembly, remove it from the boiler
If the device goes out due to minor faults, you can fix them yourself. To replace the thermocouple, you need to remove the igniter assembly from the boiler and unscrew the union nuts with a wrench.
When there is a power surge in electronic heating devices, fuses often burn
You can even repair a volatile gas appliance yourself. If it does not turn on, the fuses may have overheated due to a power surge. You need to get to the main unit and replace the failed elements.
All other malfunctions of complex components and gas equipment are entrusted to specialists. Mistakes made will not only lead to more serious damage, but are also life-threatening, since the gas is explosive.
The video explains why the pilot light on a gas boiler does not light up or goes out:
How to solve the problem of lack of traction
First of all, it is important to determine what exactly the reason is and what its nature is. If there is no normal air exchange at all and the problem is an incorrectly laid out smoke duct, you need to make structural changes:
- Increase the section of the hose - expand it to the level of the firebox pipe, this will increase the activity of circulation of gas masses.
- Extend the pipe - make it rise above the roof (ridge) by at least 0.5 m, and if there are trees or other buildings in the immediate vicinity of the building, then it is better by 1.5 m.
- Simplify the chimney - replace its horizontal sections with inclined ones, remove straight turns (remember, a change in direction is allowed by no more than 45 degrees).
But if this is not the case, and there is no draft in the heating boiler, what should you do then? Most likely, the lack of traction is due to errors made when installing the heating unit. In such a situation, it is necessary to identify and eliminate the defect, and then recheck the quality of air exchange.
If combustion products were initially discharged normally, but over time they began to accumulate in the channel, most likely something is simply clogging the sleeve, and this obstacle will have to be removed.
Try cleaning the chimney
This can be done both “the old fashioned way,” that is, mechanically, and with the help of chemical means.
- Buy a long brush from a specialized store or design one yourself (for this you only need a rag and a strong metal cord). Take this tool and run it along the walls of the pipe. This way, you will remove soot, condensation, frozen moisture and even debris that has accumulated inside.
- Or add a composition to the firebox that will mix with the combustion products and, when the gas escapes, take soot and liquid with it. Naturally, it is important that it is a non-toxic product. Consider the option of natural remedies, for example, when lighting with wood, it may well be the rock salt that everyone is familiar with. Or you can purchase ready-made chimney cleaning products, which are available in a wide range on the market.
So that a few years after installing the heat generator you don’t have to wonder why there is no draft in the stove at home, do not let it clog. Use a brush or chemical at least once or twice every six months - remember, regular prevention is important and often saves you from air exchange problems.
If cleaning doesn't help
If the issue is not soot or debris, or errors in installing the heat generator and smoke duct, then what is it? This means that the problem is in an external factor - in wind pressure from a tree or a nearby building, in heavy gusts of air currents.
Is there a solution to this situation? Yes, this is the installation of one of the auxiliary elements. Below we will look at each one that deserves attention.
Stabilizing devices
The reason why there is no draft in the stove in a bathhouse or in a house may be that the exhaust gases heat up the hose too much, does not create the necessary difference in atmospheres, and as a result does not have time to escape completely, but accumulates near the walls of the channel.
If this is the case, a regulator should be hung at the end of the pipe - a device equipped with a temperature sensor. It works clearly and quite reliably:
- triggers when the temperature rises (which is observed when gas accumulates) and opens the fuse valve;
- Fresh air enters the chimney from the street.
As a result, the pressure difference stabilizes - hence the name of the device, which, by the way, operates in automatic mode.
Deflectors
If there is no draft in the furnace, and the reason is wind pressure, the solution to the problem is to install one of these devices. Already from the name it is clear what it does - it deflects air masses reflected by high interference (the wall of a neighboring house, a trunk or branch of a tree). This is a kind of outlet, thanks to which exhaust gases are completely removed to the outside. Most often, such an element reduces pressure and improves the aerodynamic effect of the emission of combustion products. It is useful even during heavy gusts, which is why it is appreciated.
The high popularity explains the variety of models, among which deflectors-vanes stand out - a kind of hybrid that takes the best from both devices. Thanks to the presence of the upper glass, it perfectly captures the direction of wind flows, and due to the cap it is well protected from precipitation and mechanical debris.
Ferrum's product range includes an umbrella with wind protection, which is easily and tightly inserted into the chimney without the use of self-tapping screws. The price list can be found on the website.
Rotary turbines
If all the reasons for the lack of draft are eliminated or corrected, there is no draft in the furnace anyway, what to do in such a situation? Place this final element - a rotary turbine - at the outlet of the channel: it will forcefully push out the waste combustion products when necessary.
A screw on an electric drive is responsible for removing the gas, the timely activation of which is carried out by the activation of temperature and air speed sensors. The design of the device is modern and at the same time simple and reliable, which is why rotary turbines are popular.
Revision of the ventilation system
It is necessary to reconsider its organization, think about how to correct the shortcomings, in particular, remove drafts. This is relevant when you have gone through all the options, found out that the problem is not in external factors and not in the chimney, but you still don’t understand why there is no draft in the boiler. All you need is:
- frequently ventilate the rooms, and especially the one where the heating unit is located;
- install supply valves on the windows so that they provide fresh air in portions;
- use devices that will forcefully ventilate rooms;
- and all this should be combined with competent prevention - not only with cleaning the pipes, but also with heating the entire system. It is also necessary to carefully monitor the performance of all devices such as rotary turbines or deflectors.
Situations with dual-circuit devices
This technique may fade due to the reasons mentioned above. But if none of the signs are suitable, then the difficulties are caused by the specifics of the boiler. This category includes the response of the protective system against water overheating.
Documents for devices with separate heat exchangers, for example Ariston Clas B Evo 24 FF, usually indicate prohibitions on the simultaneous opening of two taps.
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And in the settings, the optimal temperature for heating water is initially selected. To do this, use the regulator on the control console. Example on the Navien Ace device:
It should be taken into account that when cold water is turned on, the consumption of hot water is reduced and heat is generated in an identical mode. As a result, the heat exchanger overheats. Then the automation reacts, shuts off the gas, and turns off the boiler.
If you operate the device strictly according to the instructions, but it still goes out, the gasket of the water mechanism must be changed. There is a high probability of it wearing out.
All identified problems can be avoided if you carefully monitor the boiler’s condition and regularly arrange its technical inspection.